2025 It's a Wrap!

A year of upheaval deserves an honest debrief—and a clear next step. I wrap season two with a heartfelt thank you, a transparent look at what resonated, and a rapid-fire tour through every guest’s biggest insight, from purpose-driven pivots to systems-level change. Along the way, I share a personal update—a move to Tasmania and a short break until late February—and a plan to rebalance what you love most: more focused solo deep dives alongside a strong guest lineup already queued.

Across the season, one thread kept returning: artificial intelligence as both promise and pressure. I sat with founders, artists, and product leaders who are excited and uneasy in equal measure. Their best advice? Cut through metrics theater and empty vision statements, ground decisions in a durable north star, and build the muscles for puzzle-solving instead of chasing vanity OKRs. Expect more of that rigor next year—clearer questions, more useful tools, and fewer buzzwords.

I also revisit standout moments that stuck. A performer-turned-entrepreneur reframed success around family and service. A men’s mental health advocate modeled brave vulnerability. A Python educator left corporate life to widen access while guarding family time. A talent coach urged creative risks that break through sameness. A filmmaker embraced Indigenous storytelling and integrity over easy outs. A comedy and improv founder used laughter as a serious tool for resilience. A change strategist introduced “Ten Permissions” for fluid lives. A live-events veteran fought for fairness in ticketing. A leadership creator turned a heart crisis into a blueprint for sustainable flow. And a product thinker dismantled performative goals in favor of vision guardrails and honest feedback loops.

Here’s what’s next: protect the organic conversations, double down on solo episodes you keep downloading, and bring in guests who add depth, not noise. If you’ve got thoughts on episode length, series ideas, or themes to explore, I want to hear them. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs a nudge toward purposeful change, and leave a quick review—what insight should we dig into first when we’re back?

Chapters

• 0:00 Year-End Reflections And Break
• 2:24 Season Two Momentum And Feedback
• 5:20 AI Curiosity And Mixed Emotions
• 7:48 Format, Length, And Solo Vs Guest
• 10:20 Guests Recap: Adam And John
• 13:20 Guests Recap: Caroline And Julian
• 16:20 Guests Recap: Albert And Kim
• 19:00 Guests Recap: Sarah And Kevin
• 22:00 Guests Recap: Gillian And Tommy
• 25:20 Guests Recap: Hannah And Radhika
• 28:10 Looking Ahead And Sign-Off

Transcript

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Hi folks and welcome back to the JD's Journal Podcast. Uh again, great to have you here. Always great to have you here. Um look, as I wrap up the second season of this podcast, and and this being December 31st, I wanted to start by thanking you all so much for listening in 2025 and wish you all an absolutely phenomenal 2026. Uh, this world has experienced so much turmoil and negativity over the past year, and uh and here's to hoping that 2026 is a year of a turnaround and and breakthrough across the globe. Uh, I think you know we really need the planets to align uh on the on a better future uh globally. Before I get into the content of this final episode for the year, I also want to give you a heads up that um the journal will be taking a break until the end of February as I put my focus on packing up and migrating down south to Tasmania. I really can't exaggerate how excited my wife and I are about hopefully this final big move. And I definitely look forward to sharing some of the new experiences that we have down there in season three of the JD's journal. So as I'm reflecting on how it felt to publish the very first episode of the podcast back in early 2024, kind of curious about how it would be received. Um, you know, is this something I'm doing that's going to be of value to anybody, or am I just doing this for the sake of hearing my own voice, which frankly is the last thing in the world I want to do. Uh now with uh 30 episodes under my belt across the two seasons, um, 21 hours of content created in season two alone, uh, I really, I really don't, I'm not sure. Like I'm I'm I'm conduct kind of pondering um how is it being received, to be honest. I I do know that when I stopped releasing episodes at the end of season one, I was actually caught off guard by the number of people who reached out to me to ask when the next episode was coming, and and that was the shot in the arm that I needed to kick off season two. And um, I've really gone at this with clear intention in terms of getting content out on a far more frequent basis during this season. And I'm I've been very pleased uh with with the rate that the episodes have been coming. Um a big change that's happened over this period too is if you go back to season one, it was largely me reaching out to people and and asking them, do you want to come onto my podcast and be a guest and so forth? And that's changed quite significantly. Pretty much every week now. I'm having somebody reach out to me to ask if they can come onto the podcast. So that's telling me that's at least somebody's listening to it, and and hopefully it's resonating with some folks to the extent that they feel like they'd like to be on uh on the podcast. Um, the structure of the episodes, the guest episodes, I mean, really hasn't changed a great deal. There is a basic structure that I do use. Um, I have included uh the topic of artificial intelligence in most of the episodes in season two, and I think that's introduced some interesting conversations that that hopefully are adding value. I've really been uh I'm legitimately curious about how people are feeling about artificial intelligence. And as you've heard, if you've been listening to the episodes, some people are incredibly excited by it, uh, as I am, and uh, and at the same time, some folks are actually daunted or intimidated or nervous about what the future is. And I'm also those things too. I think that's a common thing, is a lot of folks uh are feeling like this is a game changer in many ways. At the same time, there's concerns about what's gonna happen with this, how far is it gonna go? And and I think we still have a lot of unanswered questions uh uh that need to be explored and so forth. So it's been really good to get those diverse perspectives from people in all sorts of walks of life and how they see about the how this artificial intelligence is going to be panning out in the future. Um, but you know, beyond that, the structures remain pretty constant uh in terms of the podcast. And as I've said at the end of every episode, I'm very, very happy to receive any feedback from anybody who've got suggestions about how we can change or how I can change the structure of the podcast to make it more meaningful. Uh, my intention is to make the predominant content conversational and organic, uh, and uh and I think that's worked pretty well. Uh the duration of the podcast episodes has been longer than I anticipated. When I started off on this, I figured a podcast is going to be like 45 to 60 minutes. The reality has been the guest episodes have quite commonly been an hour and 15, an hour and a half, and we had some that were almost two hours. Again, is that too long? I don't know. Give me feedback, let me know what you're thinking. Um, the back half of season two almost entirely featured guest episodes. And I think that was great. You know, it was good because I had people reaching out to me and some really interesting people, I think. Um, and so I was really pleased to bring them onto the podcast and put their content forward. But I also am being a little bit self-critical because it makes me feel like I'm being a bit lazy in terms of creating my own content. And in season three, my intention is to rebalance that back to where I was trying to be, which is around 75, 25 guest content, my content, maybe even a little bit more than that. Um, interestingly, uh, is that when I look at the statistics in terms of downloads, although predominantly it's been guest content during season two, actually 76% of the downloads have been my solo episodes. So I think I need to take that seriously as well, um, and and go back to investing my time to create content because if I take downloads as the primary feedback of the value of the content, you're giving me a pretty strong message that uh that you you like the solo episodes. Um so you know, I'm kind of thinking about how I'm gonna struck that as well. I've got some ideas in terms of some content that I want to produce for next year, but I also can tell you I've already got seven guests in the queue for next year, and I've got recordings booked and so forth. So you're still gonna see a good mix of guests on the podcast next year. Um, given there were so many guests and so much good content, and I'm sure you probably don't have a time to listen to all of it. Um, I did want to go back and kind of recap some of the guests, or actually actually all the guests in terms of what they talked about. Um, and I'll do that quite quickly in terms of of each of the guests. So back uh back in August when we came back, we had Adam Pickstone on the podcast. Um and Adam shared how how his purpose has shifted from being uh focused on performing as an ambition to really shifting to his his primary role as a devoted devoted husband and father to his beautiful family and a provider. Um his journey was a great reflection of continual reinvention uh in terms of what he's done as an entrepreneur, setting up his own business, but also how his experience in performing arts give it, gave him that foundation of adaptability and confidence and resilience that now shapes the way that he approaches his business. Um we talked about life hacks. Adam shared his structured approach to preparing um for his engagements and a very uh uh structured approach to discovery around his customers to really understand what their needs were and then to translate that into his priorities in serving their content. Um I always ask about books, and uh and Adam offered up the Harry Potter series as his favorite books. And then his quote, which was his quote, is that to be a parent is a selfless act, that you've got to sacrifice a bit of yourself in order to make sure that those young people who need your help they foster and they grow. And I love that as a dad myself and a granddad myself. I absolutely uh love his focus on the family and on his gorgeous kids. Um, John Milham then joined us, and John shared that his purpose is based on his lived experience and on supporting others, especially men, through vulnerability care conversations and community work. Um his mission was uh catalyzed by his own personal tragedy, the loss of his wife, and John was very transparent in sharing the challenges associated with that experience and his focus based on his lived experiences around men and suicide prevention and mentoring, uh, where he's leveraging his skills in NLP and other, you know, other healthy uh strength-based and behavioral-based coaching mechanisms. Um, I was very um lucky to have gone through my coaching development experience with John. Um, and he and I, we still talk uh frequently about our coaching techniques and coaching experiences, and I will continue to work with John as a mentor and a brother when it comes to coaching people. Um, John's life hack was to lean into compliments and positive feedback, despite his ADHD and other challenges and the comfort that goes this comfort that goes with that. John has really trained himself to take those compliments um seriously. He also has a ritual of daily care conversations where um he uh reinforces himself. He he provides that kind of positive reinforcement to himself when he's brushing his teeth, looking at the mirror in the morning. And I think that's an incredibly powerful habit to get into. Um his book of choice is the Lord of the Rings series. And again, his quote was his own quote, which is to man up and show the courage to be vulnerable. And I love that. We then met with Caroline Clark. Um, Caroline's mission is to break generational trauma, to help women escape limiting narratives and unhealthy cycles. Uh, Caroline again applies her own lived experience of domestic violence and self-abandonment. Um, and she's translated that into an absolute mission. She is a force in supporting and nurturing and informing women um around independent capability and regaining their freedom and their and their strength. Um, and I continue to follow Caroline closely. I think she's doing really good work and it's making a huge difference out there. Um, she released her own book, The Good Good Girl Code, which I I highly recommend. I think the learnings in there are powerful. Um, whether you're a woman or whether you're a father who's got a daughter or or somebody that you know who needs that strength, Caroline has some brilliance to share on her sites and through her services, but I also think the book is going to be a powerful asset for anybody. Um her quote was when the uncertainty of the future feels more comfortable than the certainty of where you are. Um, and I guess that's really about breaking out, breaking out, having the courage to kind of break out of your current situation and change the situation for the better. Julian Sequera then came back in September and I'd had Julian on as one of my first guests in series one. But Julian was going through a significant transition in his life at the point where we recorded his first episode. I was so keen to have him back uh 18 months down the path to see where he'd gone with that. And he talked about his transition from a corporate life into a full entrepreneurial life in the Pyvites organization, um, who are providing training services and academy effectively for Python developers. And he talked about um his purpose remaining on helping people grow through Python education, but but how it's evolved in targeting underrepresented communities by partnering with corporates for sponsorship and really reaching out and making a difference in communities that really need skills that are going to empower them for future employment and career pathways. Um he talked about persistence and grit um being central themes and and pushing through the troughs because the peaks are right around the corner. I think anybody who's gone through that entrepreneurial experience will get that, that understanding that there are times when you're gonna be in that trough of challenges and so forth, but you've got to recognize that that win is just around the corner and have the tenacity to stick with it. Um the thing that Julian talked about in his first and this episode in in series two was really how cleverly or how consistently he blocks time that he considers to be sacred for his children and his wife, um, and maintaining those strong boundaries around mornings and weekends, despite the entrepreneurial demands. Now, he did honestly, you know, again, vulnerability is key here. He did share that that was challenging, particularly during the early stages of the of the transition into the entrepreneurial world, to kind of maintain that. But he stayed committed to that and he's focused on and has been focused on restoring those boundaries and ensuring that they're in place. Again, I think we can learn a lot from that. Um, from a book perspective, Julian recommended the Barefoot Investor by Scott Page. Um, and he referenced this book and it's Trapeze analogy for moving into entrepreneurship. So that's a great one for anybody out there who's becoming you know a business owner or a startup. It's a great place to go. And his quote just keep working, just keep pushing. Um Albert Bramante then joined us in October. Um, Albert's purpose is to connect people to help them reach their full potential, um, especially creators and students. So Albert is uh is a talent agent and a coach in New York, a fascinating individual. Um, he talked about how his mission was shaped by early influencers like Dal Carnegie, who's a favorite of mine, and David Burns, and then by his experience in acting and teaching and talent representation, he's his focuses around self-sabotage and fear and imposter syndrome, living beliefs, kind of guiding performers to work through those challenges, work through those limitations to really realize their full potential. Um, his life hack is to emphasize taking risks, even when they seem outlandish, um, and uh and using that as a as a springboard uh to show off your strengths. Um it's it's interesting. I hear that so often with successful performers, where you know, if you if you fit in, if you look like the everybody else who's auditioning for the role, or you look like everybody else who's on the stage, then the opportunities are going to be minimalized by that. The people who really have the breakthroughs are the people that really have the uh the ability to take those risks and to stand out as something that's quite unique. Um and I think Albert really did a great job uh of underscoring that in his episode. Um, his book is a favorite of mine, which is How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie. It's an old book, 1936, but it continues to be a foundational book in my own leadership development programs, because I think the learning in that book uh continues to be incredibly powerful uh and useful content. Um he also talked about a book called Feeling Good, um, The New Mood Therapy by David D. Burns, another great book, uh, which is really a classic primer on cognitive behavioral therapy. Um, and then his own book, Rise Above the Script, uh, which is based on his his uh PhD research and into self-sabotage and acting and so forth. Um and I think that was oh, he he um he didn't have a quote so much, but he referred to Ikigai. And and for anybody who's listened to my episodes, you'll know I'm a huge proponent of Ikigai. This is this this concept or a Japanese philosophy of the intersection of what you love, what you're good at, what the world needs, and what you can be paid for. Um, and that uh if you look at Ikigai, that is really about identifying what is your purpose based on those kind of four quadrants. Um, again, uh it's one of my favorite models. I really love it. Uh, Kim Acosta also joined us in October. Uh, Kim's purpose really is to be primarily a positive role model for her two daughters, really showing them what women can achieve professionally and personally. She was inspired by her father's entrepreneurial journey. And she's recently founded, well, she founded an organization called Eucentric, which is about uh supporting people looking for career pathways and to get employed and so forth. Um, I think you know, Kim's mission is to go beyond what you would consider to be traditional recruiting and to really add that value of helping people find their purpose and align that to their career aspirations. Um, she um she's also very focused, again, as an entrepreneur in supporting people in that entrepreneurial world and sharing her experiences there. It was an absolute joy to see Kim in this world, having known Kim from the corporate world to see her in that entrepreneurial space and what she's doing there was really a uh a thrill. Um, Kim uh in terms of life hacks, she really emphasized building personal brand to control the career narrative or your career narrative. Um don't let somebody else define who you are, really own that. Um she also highlights the that activating your network and driving your network, and again, you've heard me say many times, your network is everything. Um, and she focuses on achieving that through events and conferences, one-on-one, LinkedIn outreach, and so forth. And I think she's absolutely on the money in terms, particularly in this world where uh employment is such a challenge. I think that's the magic recipe is to really build and utilize your network every opportunity that you can get. Um, from a book perspective, Kim recommended a book called The Slight Edge by Jeff Olson. Um, and it's one that Kim's read and listened many to many times. And it focuses on daily incremental consistency and compound effects. So those things that you integrate into everyday activities that give you value every day, that give you a value in every instance. Um and her quote was to always put a human lens on your work and integrity in how you operate. And I love that. Sarah Elizabeth Joyce then also joined us in October. You know, Sarah's, sorry, Sarah's purpose is to make art in all its forms, um, film, poetry, resin art, novels. She's such a creative individual. Um, she's driven by an inner need rather than external validation. So her motivation is intrinsic, it comes from within. Um, and storytelling is absolutely integral in how Sara works uh and what drives her. Um, it's been influencing her approach to filmmaking and activism and creative projects, and she really embraces Australian indigenous storytelling traditions and perspectives, um, integrating those directly into her creative processes and advocacy. And I absolutely love that. Um, from a life hack perspective, uh, Sarah listens to her inner voice and embraces authenticity, um, especially when she came out as a as trans in in 2014. She actively seeks indigenous knowledge and perspectives when working on creative projects and using traditional names and cultural context to enrich storytelling, and we need we need more of that. So I love what Sarah demonstrates that, and hopefully that's going to continue to advance, advance, and encourage others to do the same. Um, from a book perspective, Sarah loves The Legend of Bug Avance by Stephen Pressfeld. Um, and she referenced through the it through its film adaptation as a story inspired by Sarah to pay off debts honorably rather than to declare bankruptcy. And I know that's become a principle for Sarah in terms of her personal life. Um she also has uh her own book, which is uh a poetry book. Um, I included the the link to that in the podcast episode. Um, and I've seen some of Sarah's poetry and I love it, uh, as well as the cyberpunk fiction um releases of Machena Girl, and I know there's another one that's just come out. Um, from a quote perspective, Sarah referenced the moral lesson from the legend of Bugavan. The quote is when everybody else tucked tail and ran and failed for bankruptcy, your father stayed and paid out everybody he owed. And again, that aligns, you can see why that aligns perfectly with her principles. Kevin Hubschmann then joined us again in October. Um, Kevin's purpose is to help people laugh uh more and to show up authentically at work using comedy and improv as tools for resilience. And I love um what Kevin's done in terms of incorporating uh laughter and comedy as a corporate development tool. I've I've I think it's such a unique uh and clever approach to helping people break down barriers and really build comfort uh that allows them to discover things and work you know more cohesively as well. The approach is really cool. Um uh Kevin's company, Laugh Dot, began with office comedy shows. And then when the pandemic produced its challenges, it moved more into the deeper impact of laughter in easing stress and isolation. And you can imagine, you know, during those disconnected years during the pandemic, how vitally important it was for us to find clever ways to keep people connected and engaged. Um, and I would never have turned to comedy the way that Kevin's done it uh to do that. But I can see how that would have been um so powerful in that environment, having lived through it myself. Um, Kevin's life hack is to use pre-event surveys to tailor the improv workshops to the team dynamics and goals. Um, he also puts a focus on the yes and as opposed to the but, um, as a as a principle um to to you know to create opportunity, create opportunities for cohesion and curiosity and so forth, as opposed to shutting down conversations uh in the corporate environment. Again, I love I love the notion of that. Um he continues the conversation beyond the workshops using his newsletter um and his RX site, um, and again, some great content up there, which I did share in the notes from that session. From a book perspective, uh Kevin recommended Nike and the Men Who Built It, uh, which was a kind of pre-shoe dog history of Nike told from the perspectives of Phil Knight. Um, he also talked about the unbearable lightness of being, um, and uh and he turns to Milan uh Candera uh for uh intellectual stimulation of a kind of philosophical uh type. And then from a quote, uh instead it was a song, which I love. I've never had anybody provide a song as the quote, but it was a song um by Olivia Dean called Man I Need, um, which for Kevin personally inspires him to be more himself, more Hubschman. And uh it's a I'd never heard of Olivia Dean. I I've listened to the song, I love it. I think it's really great, and I can see why it had the positive impact on Kevin that it did. Then we had Gillian Riley who joined us, and her purpose is to help people navigate profound change in their lives. And this is drawn from her experiences in the post-apartite South Africa and beyond. Um, she emphasizes that change requires internal permission rather than external pressure or resources. And her recently released book, The Ten Permissions, challenges conventional scripts for adult life, encouraging people to embrace fluidity, disruption, self-authored paths, and so forth. Um, I so loved the conversation with Jillian and the structure of the Ten Permissions. Uh, Jillian and I are in discussions right now, we're continuing our dialogue because I think what she's come up with is a highly powerful framework for coaching. And uh I've been tinkering around a little bit with some structures that that Gillian and I are talking about, and I'm also sharing with a few of the of my fellow coaches. But I think there's something quite powerful in what she's got in that book. So I encourage you if you didn't listen to the episode, check it out. But more importantly, go and have a look at what Gillian's got on her website in terms of the 10 permissions. Even if you just download the brief, I think there's some great content there. So check that out. Um, from a life hack perspective, Gillian uses feelings as a compass for purpose rather than rigid definitions. Um, falling vitality and curiosity as signs of alignment. Um, she encourages thinking small and going astray as strategic adaptations to a fluid, unpredictable world. Now I read that, um, but but again, it goes right to the heart of the permissions that she's presenting, and that is, you know, to think quite differently from typical thinking, be be willing to be incremental and go off track, uh, be willing to have the courage to do small things and see what happens uh and break your own conventions, challenge your own conventions and so forth. I I think it's again, I think it's incredibly powerful. Um the books, uh, she talked about um uh I talked about her own book. She mentioned Daniel Priestley's um uh keeper personal of influence and and some other works, keep person of influence and some other works, um, when discussing career uh and also um confessions of an aid worker in Africa, which is shame is the name of the book. That's another Gillian Riley book, um, which I also recommend. Her quote was we're raised to be competent labor to fit into big systems, which was attributed to Daniel Priestley, um uh coming out of this key person of influence. Again, highly recommended. Uh Tommy Dorfman then joined us in November. Uh Tommy's mission is an interesting one. Tommy's mission evolved from being a nightclub and and festival planner that he built in a frankly an empire into a 15-year legal battle that he's been going on with has been going on with Live Nation. Um, he strongly believes that the way that Live Nation is operating um is is stifling the business, is stifling the industry, both in the terms of the artists um and the and the audiences. Um he positions himself as a whistleblower, aiming to expose the practices that harm the fans and drive high ticket prices and so forth, and and really get in the way of independent promoters. Uh, it's his it's his battle, and he's fighting an incredibly strong battle. And to have the the commitment to stick with that battle for 15 years, I'm in awe of his tenacity uh on this topic. Um, his life hack is really about keeping his word. You know, he his mantra is that a handshake deal is as binding as a contract, which is a principle that he gained from his father. Um, and he relies on persistence and moral obligation to stick with the fight that he's been fighting. I I know that um he had a court date coming up. Um I'm sure that battle continues, but I think uh he seems to be on a on a worthy mission that affects all of us as we're all impacted, particularly people who like live entertainment, we're all impacted by the way the business is operated. So I'm watching with interest to see where this goes. Uh, from a book perspective, he recommended a book called The Business of Concert Promotion and Touring by Richard Barnett. Um, his this is cited as being the definitive textbook for concert promotion, and it's used in colleges across the globe. And as his quote, I'll go back to what I shared earlier, was his father's quote, which is that a handshake deal is the same as a contract deal. Hannah Bauer then joined us on November 20th. Uh, the takeaways from Hannah that her purpose is to help leaders solve complex problems through love and excellence, balanced humanity with organizational transformation. Hannah's story is so interesting. You know, her journey, uh her personal journey was about overcoming a life-threatening heart condition. Um, and and this became a metaphor to how she thinks about the reinvention of business systems, kind of removing blockages, restoring rhythm, and enabling sustainable flow. You can see how the metaphor works there. She founded HeartNomics Enterprises to combine leadership development and business consulting and organizational alignment, sorry, with lessons uh built on top of her personal experience, both the survival that she went through uh with the heart condition I mentioned, but also that the work and experience she's had around industry disruption and reinvention. Um, Hannah's life hack is to emphasize the mini shifts, the small, consistent actions that align with beliefs, engagement, uh, and transformation. This is her beat metaphor. Um she um advocates the process for processes and systems that capture the learnings from failure, enabling organizations to fail forward and innovate sustainably. Um again, if you've heard me talk, I'm a big believer in the most powerful lessons that we get come from failure. If if we take that failure and turn it into learning, if we take that failure and turn it into change. Um and her magnet mantra, which I love, is always make new mistakes. And that's the fright fridge magnet that I have here that I'm always referencing as well. Um, which is again, embrace learning rather than being afraid of failure. Embrace the fact that when things go wrong, um, we we gain new insights, we gain new knowledge, and if we apply it, then we continuously improve. Um she uh she shared that her the books that she loves, The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman, a great book. Um, and there is a corporate adaptation of that book, which is phenomenal as well. Um, and uh and her own book, um, which is The Hustle with Heart, uh, and this is the 52 mini shifts to maximize your impact. This is a book that provides 52, so weekly, small changes, small things that you can do, they're gonna improve your practices, improve your structure uh to make you better at what you do. And uh the quote is her own quote, which is we're called to be excellent, not perfect. Uh, and I again it's a good one. That's a great one. Uh, my final guest for the year was Radika Dutt. Um Radhika uh argues that traditional aspirational vision statements are quote unquote bullshit, and I don't disagree with her at all. Um, instead, she advocates for clear, problem-focused visions. Um, she identifies common product diseases such as pivotitis and obsessive sales disorder, which disrail or sorry, derail teams. And the the upcoming work that she has in play is really around um challenging the effectiveness of goals and OKRs uh and and instead proposing a healthier kind of puzzle-setting, puzzle-solving mindset. Um, and if you haven't listened to the episode, I I kind of gosh, it resonated so strongly in terms of my own experience. You know, the the fiction that we create within corporations focused on KPIs and OKRs and uh effectively in many cases cooking the books to make the senior leadership feel like you're achieving your goals when in reality you're you're kind of masking um the issues and you're masking the inconsistencies and inefficiencies of the organization. I love the notion of focusing an organization on building competency around problem identification and problem solving or puzzle solving uh to drive improvements. So it's it's I'm can't wait to see um that work that she has in play right now being released into the wild. Uh Radika's Life Hack is the discipline ritual grounding every product decision in a vision-driven framework, which acts as guardrails for effectiveness. Again, that ties right back into what we what we were just talking about. Um, the favorite book she recommends is The Tyranny of Metrics by uh Jerry Zay Zed Mueller. Uh, and her quote was there's no failure, only feedback. Um, and uh again, um, that's one I use a lot. I think it's great. So, like a lot of content, uh, a lot of guest content in season two of the podcast. Um, I've given you a very, very compressed view of all the things that we've done, hopefully to remind you if you haven't, if you've listened to the episodes, if you haven't listened to the episodes to give you a sense of what was covered. Um, by all means, if one of those or any of those interests you go back, check out the incident and the episodes and uh and see if it's valuable to you. Um, with that, uh, I will be, as I said, I'll be signing off from today until the end of February when I'll be back. There's a lot of content in the in the pipeline for the coming year. Uh, I will continue to look for ways to make the podcast more interesting, more compelling. I'm also talking to another amazing organization about coming on board uh as a host for their podcast as well. Um, I'll share more about that in the new year. Um, but um I'm excited to work with this particular organization. They uh they are doing such good work in terms of storytelling and storytelling specifically focused on the well-being of our communities. I think it's I'm just so uh honored to have been approached uh to be a part of what they're doing. And so again, I'm excited to share that with you. But in the meantime, um uh that's it for this podcast for the year. I hope whatever you've got planned for the new year celebrations, uh, you are having an incredible time and that you're safe and with the people that you love. Um, as always, uh I really hope you're living your best life wherever you are, what are you doing? And please, more than ever, be good to each other. Talk to you all in the new year.